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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:40 pm 
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Found an interesting thing on Reddit (rare I know)

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comme ... iil_kvyat/

In short. WADA is banning Russia for 4 years. FIA supports WADA. Therefor F1 is major sporting event. Therefor Kvyat could potentially enter the 2020 season a driver with a Neutral nationality.

It be interesting to see how this pans out eventually. In a few years this would be an interesting trivia question: What driver drove under a Neutral nationality in F1?


It is F1 we are talking about here. Don't hold your breath, they are beholden to the almighty $$$ and good ol' Vlad might have a quite whisper into Mr Potato Head's ear.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:35 pm 
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What about Sochi? Will it be called European Grand Prix?

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NVirkkula wrote:
What about Sochi? Will it be called European Grand Prix?


maybe, that complex was built over a huge money doping haha

Kvyat is now married with Kelly Piquet, maybe he could borrow one of the nationalities that she has

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micha wrote:
In a few years this would be an interesting trivia question: What driver drove under a Neutral nationality in F1?

Bertrand Gachot raced under French, Belgian, Luxemburg and even European licence. Not all in F1, some only in F3000.


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I have bought a book about Ayrton Senna (Ayrton Senna - All His Races), which made me look closer to the F1 results of his time. I have only been following F1 closely since 1994-1995 so not an expert of F1 of the 80's and early 90's.

I just noticed that in 1989, Gerhard Berger in Ferrari retired in the first 10 races (and missed Monaco because of his crash at Imola), so he only scored points in the 12th race of the season. THAT must have been frustrating. Especially since his team mate Mansell already scored 6 podium finishes by that time.


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if a Ferrari driver DNF the first 10 races of the season today everyone would be wanting him to be dropped out of the team

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Ferrari in 1989 had a 100% podium record, when they finished a race.

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Ferrari in 1989 had a 100% podium record, when they finished a race.



Vettel nearly did the same this year. :roll:

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if a Ferrari driver DNF the first 10 races of the season today everyone would be wanting him to be dropped out of the team

I think most of it was technical, the car was far from reliable. I think not the driver but half the staff would be fired.
But can you imagine, driving a Ferrari and often qualify in the top 4, and still have zero points by the time you go to the Japanese GP...


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The year you're speaking of was the first year Ferrari (or anyone) ran a paddle shift gearbox. If I remember correctly, a lot of retirements were due to that. There's the famous story where Mansell in Brazil booked his flight home before the race was even completed because he didn't expect it to last 5 laps. He ended up winning (suck shit, the more I read about Mansell, including one of his own books, the more I dislike him)

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Berger's injuries were enough to keep him out of the Monaco Grand Prix, but with the help of Niki Lauda's physical therapist Willy Dungl, and the semi-automatic gearbox's advantage of not having to take his hands off the steering wheel to change gears, the brave Austrian was able return one race later in Mexico where his injuries would otherwise have kept him out if the 640 had used a conventional gearbox and stick shift.

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Scotty wrote:
He ended up winning (suck shit, the more I read about Mansell, including one of his own books, the more I dislike him)


plus he got a wrist cut with the trophy on the podium

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He ended up winning (suck shit, the more I read about Mansell, including one of his own books, the more I dislike him)


plus he got a wrist cut with the trophy on the podium


He was a whinging little pussy, was "Our Nige".


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Scotty wrote:
He ended up winning (suck shit, the more I read about Mansell, including one of his own books, the more I dislike him)


plus he got a wrist cut with the trophy on the podium


He was a whinging little pussy, was "Our Nige".


I had the mis-pleasure of reading his 3rd book, apparently 2 biographies wasn't enough of a cash grab (thankfully I only paid $5 for it) but he seemed to be completely full of shit. He said he was nearly beaten to death with kids with bats when he was a teenager, every F1 race was a struggle because he suffered somewhere between 500-1000 injuries in the sport, broke every bone 12 times. He liked a lot of mayo on his sandwiches.

I really, really dislike him now.

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He was a very good driver, but I can't imagine even reading one book authored by him.

I was a Berger fan and 1989 was a tough year.


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Scotty wrote:
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plus he got a wrist cut with the trophy on the podium


He was a whinging little pussy, was "Our Nige".


I had the mis-pleasure of reading his 3rd book, apparently 2 biographies wasn't enough of a cash grab (thankfully I only paid $5 for it) but he seemed to be completely full of shit. He said he was nearly beaten to death with kids with bats when he was a teenager, every F1 race was a struggle because he suffered somewhere between 500-1000 injuries in the sport, broke every bone 12 times. He liked a lot of mayo on his sandwiches.

I really, really dislike him now.


TBF, most of that was Murray Walker punching him in the face while trying to interview him after races :lol:

"Nigel, you've got a nice cut on your wrist from the podium trophy, can you let them see it?"

*Nige gets his wrist out*

"Right down THERE!!!!!!!! *Murray pokes it* OOOOH I'M SORRY!!"

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Scotty wrote:
thestig88 wrote:
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plus he got a wrist cut with the trophy on the podium


He was a whinging little pussy, was "Our Nige".


I had the mis-pleasure of reading his 3rd book, apparently 2 biographies wasn't enough of a cash grab (thankfully I only paid $5 for it) but he seemed to be completely full of shit. He said he was nearly beaten to death with kids with bats when he was a teenager, every F1 race was a struggle because he suffered somewhere between 500-1000 injuries in the sport, broke every bone 12 times. He liked a lot of mayo on his sandwiches.

I really, really dislike him now.


I always got the impression his body was made of paper and thin plastic tbh. Aside from the well-known cases like the poking incident @
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mentions, there was also stuff like the time where he shunted at the last chicane in Canada, but then rolled to the middle of the track and 'passed out'. I don't even think it looked convincing to the commentators tbh.

There was also some kind of drama when he was racing in Grand Prix Masters - I went to the Silverstone round and there was some kind of problem on his car that stopped him running, but also rumours of some kind of injury or illness.

/Edit yeah, he didn't shunt so much as bounce over the gravel and spin:



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Nige always loved being theatrical.

if he was a soccer player this would be him

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micha wrote:
Nige always loved being theatrical.

if he was a soccer player this would be him

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You mean like...


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funny that his Dallas fainting might be the only legit dramatic moment he had. Someone here in the forum even said that Mansell had a good physical condition and was always prone to that, having to put a oxygen tube attached on his helmet, while Rosberg, a bulky scandinavian that smoked and didn't cared too much won those tough races like a walk in the park

Nelson Piquet once told that the Suzuka crash was also overdramatic as there was a team member who was once in the army and could see if someone is really in pain

there was also that time in Indy where he crashed coming out of the pits and stumbled into a track marshall because of "boiling water leak"

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Good thing that we have 20 real grown ups in F1 these days!

Weih, I don't want these tyres!
Weih, he touched me, what was he thinking, honestly!
Weih, there's a guy 3 seconds in front of me and he STILL has not been given blue flags and parked his car in the dirt so I can pass him!


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