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Eagle Eyed Observation (bugging me for 15 years!)
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Author:  thestig88 [ Sun Dec 28, 2014 8:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Eagle Eyed Observation (bugging me for 15 years!)
Back in the awesome days of CART in the late 90's, during the 98-01 GP's of Houston, I noticed lots more cars seemed to carry onboard camera pods for that one race only (usually 6 cars carried a camera on the roll hoop with the others camera-less), and some of them on closer inspection were just a blank pod with no camera lens in.

Also ESPN / ABC had a policy of not allowing in-car footage from tobacco liveried cars (although Mauricio Gugelmin had a camera fitted exclusively for Brazilian Tv SBT / Ao Vivo), so fitting a camera seemed pointless?

Paul Tracy:
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Al Unser JrL
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J.J. Lehto:
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Tarso Marques:
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Helio Castroneves
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Does anyone have any idea why?
Author:  Dan Belcher [ Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Eagle Eyed Observation (bugging me for 15 years!)
Before they required all cars carry the onboard camera pods to make aerodynamics more equal, I do remember hearing that some teams liked to have the tall camera pod on the rollhoop at street courses where the cars are close to walls a lot of the time to make their cars easier to see for the teams in the pits, etc.
Author:  thestig88 [ Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Eagle Eyed Observation (bugging me for 15 years!)
Interesting to hear! Many thanks! Does make sense, although you'd expect the teams to then use the same approach at the other street venues (Detroit, Toronto, Vancouver, Surfers etc) which they didn't. You can see on the side of Unsers unit a "2", with other cars having various stripes on to differentiate from a team-mates car.

Paul Tracy did also carry them at other events (Mid-Ohio, Fontana), non-street events, and not necessarily in subsequent years, which seems a bit inconsistent. (Tracy's they even put a black sticker on it to make it look like a proper camera from a distance!)
Author:  iks [ Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:59 am ]
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Ah, I was always mystified and a bit pissed that they never showed onboards from Penske and Forsythe back in the 90s...
Author:  Shane [ Wed Dec 31, 2014 7:09 am ]
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I came here for the car porn.
Author:  StefMeister [ Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Eagle Eyed Observation (bugging me for 15 years!)
In 2001 Penske sometimes ran a thin strip of carbon on the roll hoop on 1 car I believe for the same purpose:

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Author:  thestig88 [ Fri Jan 02, 2015 8:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Eagle Eyed Observation (bugging me for 15 years!)
I was going to mention that but you beat me to it Stef!
Author:  gkmotorsport [ Fri Jan 02, 2015 9:49 pm ]
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Damn, if Todt was so set on running turbo engines, he should have just bought up as many old Reynards and Dallaras as he could find.
Author:  thestig88 [ Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Eagle Eyed Observation (bugging me for 15 years!)
Totally! And they didn't do too bad running on methanol fuel either!
Author:  Speedworx [ Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Eagle Eyed Observation (bugging me for 15 years!)
Such good looking cars. Where did it all go wrong?
Author:  Soul Reaver [ Sat Jan 03, 2015 3:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Eagle Eyed Observation (bugging me for 15 years!)
Yeah, one selfish Tony George who wanted more americans, made a cheaper series, that turned around and started hiring the same outcomers in the end..... As they go faster. If only they didn't say to Jeff Gordon "Show me the money and we show you the ride" and had a way to open to those. Not that I'm an American, I just wanted this series alive. While outcomers still try, to be good at Nascar you mostly have to have a driving background in things that only exist in US, so that keeps the series mostly protected and thus more popular......
Author:  Shane [ Mon Jan 05, 2015 7:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Eagle Eyed Observation (bugging me for 15 years!)
Speedworx wrote:
Such good looking cars. Where did it all go wrong?


...not to beat that dead horse again but the IRL.
Author:  Gaara [ Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Eagle Eyed Observation (bugging me for 15 years!)
Ego's on both sides.
Author:  Pretzel [ Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:30 am ]
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I'm confused, why is Tarso Marques on here? As far as I know he didn't have a Tobacco sponsorship on his car anywhere.
Author:  thestig88 [ Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Eagle Eyed Observation (bugging me for 15 years!)
Another observation but from present times, what is the little device that gets fitted just in front of the rollhoop camera during free practice sessions?
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Author:  Soul Reaver [ Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Eagle Eyed Observation (bugging me for 15 years!)
It's a robot driving the car it looks like. :P
Author:  Ian-S [ Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:19 am ]
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It's a camera, probably an infrared one.

Teams are allowed to use their own cameras if they want, but only in practice/testing.
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